Basic Details
Surname
Rands
Forenames
Herbert
Gender
Male
Information stated on memorial
Served or died
Died
Notes
The Roll lists his address as 11 Globe Street. It misrecords his rank as Corporal and that he died on 24/9/1917.

(CWGC records that Serjeant Herbert Rands, regimental number 307722, died on 4/10/1917 serving in the 1st/8th Battalion Royal Warwickshire Regiment, and is commemorated on Tyne Cot Memorial in Belgium. Soldiers Died in the Great War records that him as a native of St John's parish in Peterborough who enlisted in Old Fletton; that he died as an Acting Serjeant in the Royal Warwickshire regiment, having previously served in the Hunts Cyclist Battalion under regimental number 1. The Army Registers of Soldiers' Effects record that he died in Belgium on 4/10/1917, and that his mother Eliza A Bird was his legatee. His birth had been registered in Peterborough District in 1891 as Herbert Rands. On the 1891 census he was 3 months old; he and his mother Eliza were living at 23 Wood Street, Peterborough with her parents Thomas and Mary Rands. His mother Eliza Ann Rands married Thomas Bird in the Peterborough District in 1893. On the 1901 census Herbert was living as the son of Thomas and Eliza Bird at 3 Globe Street in Peterborough; his surname was recorded as Bird. On the 1911 census he was likewise recorded under the surname Bird, living with his parents at 11 Globe Street, Albert Place, Peterborough. That was the address Herbert gave when he volunteered on 1/4/1908 for Army service under his legal surname Rands; his Army service file and military records are therefore under the surname Rands. Herbert joined the Hunts Cyclist Battalion and 5th Battalion Bedfordshire Regiment on 1/4/1908. He served in them until shortly after disembarking in France; he arrived at Rouen on 30/7/1916 and transferred to the Royal Warwickshire Regiment on 7/8/1916. His Army file records that he was appointed as Acting Corporal on 5/3/1917, and was confirmed in that rank on 8/5/1917; he was appointed as Acting Serjeant on 17/8/1917, and was serving in that rank when he was killed in action on 4/10/1917).
Primary Service
As stated on memorial
Service (Primary - Stated)
Army
Unit (Primary - Stated)
Royal Warwicks
Rank / Title (Primary - Stated)
Cpl
Our References
Service (Primary - Our reference)
Unit (Primary - Our reference)
Rank / Title (Primary - Our reference)
Death and Burial details
Country of death
Not Stated on Memorial
Country of burial
Not Stated on Memorial
Cemetery
Not Stated on Memorial
Year of death
1917
Month of death
September
Day of death
24
Manner of death as stated
"Killed in action 24 September 1917"
Manner of death reference
Killed in Action
Personal Details
Address
11 GLOBE STREET
Occupation
Not Stated on Memorial